Comments on: Career academies, where a-g and job training meet http://toped.svefoundation.org/2009/11/18/career-academies-where-a-g-and-job-training-meet/ Analysis, opinion and ruminations on California education policy Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:03:08 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Marie C. Brown, M.A. http://toped.svefoundation.org/2009/11/18/career-academies-where-a-g-and-job-training-meet/comment-page-1/#comment-2679 Marie C. Brown, M.A. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 20:28:18 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/blog/?p=543#comment-2679 Above is my website for those interested in collaborating with current and new best practices that work in educating students K to 12. Above is my website for those interested in collaborating with current and new best practices that work in educating students K to 12.

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]]> By: Marie C. Brown, M.A. http://toped.svefoundation.org/2009/11/18/career-academies-where-a-g-and-job-training-meet/comment-page-1/#comment-2678 Marie C. Brown, M.A. Sat, 21 Nov 2009 17:03:51 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/blog/?p=543#comment-2678 Real educators always keep their skills new and current. Regardless of the trends, educators who care about students, at any level, keep their bag of tricks updated and materials well stocked. The age of "drill and kill" is long gone. Short practices are the only way current students learn. Study groups are important especially in the late evenings for keeping skills fresh for both educators and students. The economy has changed everything in education. We as educators have NO time to waste with old drill and kill style teaching. Concepts are difficult but if taught in groups, everyone benefits. The name of the game is collaboration and responsibility. Real educators always keep their skills new and current. Regardless of the trends, educators who care about students, at any level, keep their bag of tricks updated and materials well stocked. The age of “drill and kill” is long gone. Short practices are the only way current students learn. Study groups are important especially in the late evenings for keeping skills fresh for both educators and students.

The economy has changed everything in education. We as educators have NO time to waste with old drill and kill style teaching. Concepts are difficult but if taught in groups, everyone benefits. The name of the game is collaboration and responsibility.

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]]> By: John S. Leyba http://toped.svefoundation.org/2009/11/18/career-academies-where-a-g-and-job-training-meet/comment-page-1/#comment-1443 John S. Leyba Thu, 19 Nov 2009 16:50:26 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/blog/?p=543#comment-1443 False dichotomy, day late and a dollar short. Or several billion. As I mentioned in my comment attached to the other post, the debate about high school is laughable when public middle schools in this state from Dunsmuir to Escondido stink. Need to provide solid foundations for kids between 5th and 8th grade. All the disciplinary and core subject shortcomings of the schools start in middle school/junior high, where conveniently there are fewer electives than ever. "Kids these days" cannot use their heads, nor their hands, when they get to high school, because they haven't been required to before high school. This must change first. False dichotomy, day late and a dollar short. Or several billion.

As I mentioned in my comment attached to the other post, the debate about high school is laughable when public middle schools in this state from Dunsmuir to Escondido stink. Need to provide solid foundations for kids between 5th and 8th grade. All the disciplinary and core subject shortcomings of the schools start in middle school/junior high, where conveniently there are fewer electives than ever. “Kids these days” cannot use their heads, nor their hands, when they get to high school, because they haven’t been required to before high school. This must change first.

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]]> By: johnf http://toped.svefoundation.org/2009/11/18/career-academies-where-a-g-and-job-training-meet/comment-page-1/#comment-908 johnf Thu, 19 Nov 2009 07:19:05 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/blog/?p=543#comment-908 Paul: I am hoping that the WestEd study will shed light on costs. If it is true that attendance rises in career academies, then districts also should benefit from a state reimbursement system based on average daily attendance. But it may be true that smaller schools within schools, with student supports, carry added expense. Paul: I am hoping that the WestEd study will shed light on costs. If it is true that attendance rises in career academies, then districts also should benefit from a state reimbursement system based on average daily attendance. But it may be true that smaller schools within schools, with student supports, carry added expense.

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]]> By: Paul Muench http://toped.svefoundation.org/2009/11/18/career-academies-where-a-g-and-job-training-meet/comment-page-1/#comment-907 Paul Muench Thu, 19 Nov 2009 02:07:01 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/blog/?p=543#comment-907 In terms of what's good for students I'd have to agree that this disagreement is based on a false dichotomy. However it also seems that the affordability of providing options is perhaps forcing a choice. Am I missing something? In terms of what’s good for students I’d have to agree that this disagreement is based on a false dichotomy. However it also seems that the affordability of providing options is perhaps forcing a choice. Am I missing something?

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