Comments on: PPIC poll: Tax us to protect K-12 schools http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/01/28/ppic-poll-tax-us-to-protect-k-12-schools/ Analysis, opinion and ruminations on California education policy Wed, 30 May 2012 07:31:37 +0200 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Eugenia Thakkar http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/01/28/ppic-poll-tax-us-to-protect-k-12-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-32552 Eugenia Thakkar Mon, 18 Jul 2011 02:10:53 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/blog/?p=1145#comment-32552 Hi i like the extraordinary message that you posted here, but you should check your blog link or is there error with the theme? because i can not choose any other link than posted this comment. Hi i like the extraordinary message that you posted here, but you should check your blog link or is there error with the theme? because i can not choose any other link than posted this comment.

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]]> By: Gregory Gray http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/01/28/ppic-poll-tax-us-to-protect-k-12-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-5159 Gregory Gray Mon, 01 Feb 2010 05:20:31 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/blog/?p=1145#comment-5159 I would refer readers of this site to the California Budget Project's various work on taxes in California. Californians have elected both Democrats and Republicans who have created a tax structure that has created most of our budget problems. We have enriched large corporations and the elite at the expense of the middle class. http://www.cbp.org/publications/state_taxes_land.html I would refer readers of this site to the California Budget Project’s various work on taxes in California. Californians have elected both Democrats and Republicans who have created a tax structure that has created most of our budget problems. We have enriched large corporations and the elite at the expense of the middle class.
http://www.cbp.org/publications/state_taxes_land.html

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]]> By: CarolineSF http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/01/28/ppic-poll-tax-us-to-protect-k-12-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-5100 CarolineSF Fri, 29 Jan 2010 14:12:03 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/blog/?p=1145#comment-5100 The press continually repeats the claim that Prop. 13 is the "third rail of politics." That's not valid. Not many of today's Californians even have any notion of what Prop. 13 is. Only those of us born before June 1970 and living in California in June 1978 were able to vote on Prop. 13 -- and we must be a tiny percentage of the today's populace. And of those who weren't present and aware at the time it was voted in, very few people know anything about it. Prop. 13's support came from people who were in their 60s and 70s in 1978, those born between 1900 and 1915, say -- and most of them have gone to the great low-taxes-less-government haven in the sky. Polls show that Californians support Prop. 13. But I asked Mark DiCamillo of the Field Poll once how the pollsters deal with the respondents who, asked their opinion of Prop. 13, don't know what it is. He acknowledged that a large number of people don't know what Prop. 13 is, and sent me the brief, dry description that Field pollsters show respondents. But an opinion given on the spot by someone who has no information about the subject, based on one brief description, is not sound or valid. It would be easy to write a brief description that motivated most of those people to disapprove of Prop. 13. So those polls are simply not based on reality. The press needs to stop promoting the notion that most Californians support Prop. 13, because that's just not true. The press continually repeats the claim that Prop. 13 is the “third rail of politics.”

That’s not valid. Not many of today’s Californians even have any notion of what Prop. 13 is. Only those of us born before June 1970 and living in California in June 1978 were able to vote on Prop. 13 — and we must be a tiny percentage of the today’s populace. And of those who weren’t present and aware at the time it was voted in, very few people know anything about it.

Prop. 13’s support came from people who were in their 60s and 70s in 1978, those born between 1900 and 1915, say — and most of them have gone to the great low-taxes-less-government haven in the sky.

Polls show that Californians support Prop. 13. But I asked Mark DiCamillo of the Field Poll once how the pollsters deal with the respondents who, asked their opinion of Prop. 13, don’t know what it is. He acknowledged that a large number of people don’t know what Prop. 13 is, and sent me the brief, dry description that Field pollsters show respondents.

But an opinion given on the spot by someone who has no information about the subject, based on one brief description, is not sound or valid. It would be easy to write a brief description that motivated most of those people to disapprove of Prop. 13. So those polls are simply not based on reality. The press needs to stop promoting the notion that most Californians support Prop. 13, because that’s just not true.

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]]> By: John Fensterwald http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/01/28/ppic-poll-tax-us-to-protect-k-12-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-5089 John Fensterwald Fri, 29 Jan 2010 06:22:56 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/blog/?p=1145#comment-5089 And charters would not get any money from a parcel tax that districts pass, if I'm not mistaken. Correct me if I'm wrong, John. (Also a point to note at the Charter Summit on Saturday.) And charters would not get any money from a parcel tax that districts pass, if I’m not mistaken. Correct me if I’m wrong, John. (Also a point to note at the Charter Summit on Saturday.)

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]]> By: John Danner http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/01/28/ppic-poll-tax-us-to-protect-k-12-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-5086 John Danner Fri, 29 Jan 2010 03:59:13 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/blog/?p=1145#comment-5086 Given that charters account for 80% of the top 15 schools in the state now, serve more low-income students than districts and are only receiving 80% of what districts receive per-pupil, any cuts are going to hurt charters and thus our neediest children most. Given that charters account for 80% of the top 15 schools in the state now, serve more low-income students than districts and are only receiving 80% of what districts receive per-pupil, any cuts are going to hurt charters and thus our neediest children most.

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]]> By: Franco Rozic http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/01/28/ppic-poll-tax-us-to-protect-k-12-schools/comment-page-1/#comment-5077 Franco Rozic Thu, 28 Jan 2010 20:29:32 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/blog/?p=1145#comment-5077 The results seem to indicate once again, to no surprise of my own, that the same general electorate that says they don't like "Welfare" or those that must use it, in whatever form it takes nowadays, are also prone to misunderstand the true level of funding required to provide this state's society with the services it requires to meet the demands that the electorate expect to receive without questions. The results seem to indicate once again, to no surprise of my own, that the same general electorate that says they don’t like “Welfare” or those that must use it, in whatever form it takes nowadays, are also prone to misunderstand the true level of funding required to provide this state’s society with the services it requires to meet the demands that the electorate expect to receive without questions.

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