Comments on: CSBA Scott Plotkin’s troubling resignation http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/07/26/csba-scott-plotkins-troubling-resignation/ Analysis, opinion and ruminations on California education policy Wed, 08 Feb 2012 03:03:08 +0100 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: Tom McElheney http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/07/26/csba-scott-plotkins-troubling-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-22379 Tom McElheney Tue, 10 Aug 2010 21:18:14 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/?p=2747#comment-22379 This news forces Democrats to graciously admit that there is some nasty excess out there. There is among conservatives a new hunger in their ranks to expose dishonesty like this. It takes very very little news like this to cause a great deal of damage to very worthwhile government spending on education. May those who are engaged in larceny stop before vast areas of public expenditure are cut off. This news forces Democrats to graciously admit that there is some nasty excess out there. There is among conservatives a new hunger in their ranks to expose dishonesty like this. It takes very very little news like this to cause a great deal of damage to very worthwhile government spending on education. May those who are engaged in larceny stop before vast areas of public expenditure are cut off.

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]]> By: MEKleven http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/07/26/csba-scott-plotkins-troubling-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-20800 MEKleven Tue, 27 Jul 2010 06:14:58 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/?p=2747#comment-20800 Sad, sad, sad! Having been a school board member for 15 years, I've found CSBA to be an effective advocate for public education under Scott Plotkin's leadership. But this saga has done more harm to CSBA than can likely be repaired in 5 years. Now the only credible response from elected CSBA leadership is to display absolute transparency as it works to repair the damage. The last several years of salary will likely spike Scott's retirement payment into the stratophere--putting the taxpayer on the hook for any PERS funding shortfall---all too likely a prospect in CA right now. Obviously Scott is not the leader we thought him to be, but those who were willing to bless his salary/bonus payments have some serious soul-searching to do as well. Even tho I expect that not all directors voted in favor of these payments, the group think that would allow this kind of abuse must have been intoxicating. Sad, sad, sad! Having been a school board member for 15 years, I’ve found CSBA to be an effective advocate for public education under Scott Plotkin’s leadership. But this saga has done more harm to CSBA than can likely be repaired in 5 years. Now the only credible response from elected CSBA leadership is to display absolute transparency as it works to repair the damage. The last several years of salary will likely spike Scott’s retirement payment into the stratophere–putting the taxpayer on the hook for any PERS funding shortfall—all too likely a prospect in CA right now.

Obviously Scott is not the leader we thought him to be, but those who were willing to bless his salary/bonus payments have some serious soul-searching to do as well. Even tho I expect that not all directors voted in favor of these payments, the group think that would allow this kind of abuse must have been intoxicating.

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]]> By: Suz http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/07/26/csba-scott-plotkins-troubling-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-20777 Suz Mon, 26 Jul 2010 23:54:09 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/?p=2747#comment-20777 It would be very interesting to learn more about how much the other CSBA executives earn (sure are a lot of Deputy and Assistant Executive Directors) and how board directors, directors at large and delegates are compensated. As for the CalPERS inclusion, are you kidding me?!! For those of us in the trenches raising funds and advocating for California public schools, this just makes our [volunteer] work that much harder. It would be very interesting to learn more about how much the other CSBA executives earn (sure are a lot of Deputy and Assistant Executive Directors) and how board directors, directors at large and delegates are compensated. As for the CalPERS inclusion, are you kidding me?!! For those of us in the trenches raising funds and advocating for California public schools, this just makes our [volunteer] work that much harder.

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]]> By: Interested Person http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/07/26/csba-scott-plotkins-troubling-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-20763 Interested Person Mon, 26 Jul 2010 21:00:23 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/?p=2747#comment-20763 Actually, salaries of employees in nonprofits over $100,000 are not confidential--they must reported on the IRS public documents, which is how Plotkin's was disclosed. The Form 990 will also require the CSBA officers to disclose their stipends. In 2007-08, the chair was paid $25,000. These also must be on the Form 700s filled out locally as school board members. Actually, salaries of employees in nonprofits over $100,000 are not confidential–they must reported on the IRS public documents, which is how Plotkin’s was disclosed.

The Form 990 will also require the CSBA officers to disclose their stipends. In 2007-08, the chair was paid $25,000. These also must be on the Form 700s filled out locally as school board members.

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]]> By: John Lindner http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/07/26/csba-scott-plotkins-troubling-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-20762 John Lindner Mon, 26 Jul 2010 20:58:27 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/?p=2747#comment-20762 Re: CalPERS, I stand corrected. Re: CalPERS, I stand corrected.

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]]> By: John S. Leyba http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/07/26/csba-scott-plotkins-troubling-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-20759 John S. Leyba Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:45:03 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/?p=2747#comment-20759 Quick! Someone page Senator Simitian... using public credit cards for cash advances at casinos or anywhere else definitely falls into the "there ought to be a law" category. While we're at it, I present a simple solution: JAIL. Quick! Someone page Senator Simitian… using public credit cards for cash advances at casinos or anywhere else definitely falls into the “there ought to be a law” category. While we’re at it, I present a simple solution: JAIL.

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]]> By: John Fensterwald http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/07/26/csba-scott-plotkins-troubling-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-20758 John Fensterwald Mon, 26 Jul 2010 19:25:18 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/?p=2747#comment-20758 My understanding, John, is that CSBA is included in the public retirement system because of a law it was able to get passed years back. My understanding, John, is that CSBA is included in the public retirement system because of a law it was able to get passed years back.

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]]> By: Interested Person http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/07/26/csba-scott-plotkins-troubling-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-20757 Interested Person Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:51:57 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/?p=2747#comment-20757 CSBA is in PERS under the Local Miscellaneous program. http://www.calpers.ca.gov/eip-docs/employer/actuarial-gasb/risk-pooling/val-results-misc2.0-60.pdf CSBA is in PERS under the Local Miscellaneous program.

http://www.calpers.ca.gov/eip-docs/employer/actuarial-gasb/risk-pooling/val-results-misc2.0-60.pdf

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]]> By: John Lindner http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/07/26/csba-scott-plotkins-troubling-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-20754 John Lindner Mon, 26 Jul 2010 18:17:17 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/?p=2747#comment-20754 You wrote: "What will be Plotkin’s retirement package through the California Public Employees Retirement System?" Plotkin's CSBA retirement wouldn't be through PERS. CSBA is a non-profit organization, not a governmental body. I think it's very reasonable to ask about the retirement/severance package he will receive; but anything based on CSBA work won't be coming to him through PERS. John You wrote: “What will be Plotkin’s retirement package through the California Public Employees Retirement System?”

Plotkin’s CSBA retirement wouldn’t be through PERS. CSBA is a non-profit organization, not a governmental body. I think it’s very reasonable to ask about the retirement/severance package he will receive; but anything based on CSBA work won’t be coming to him through PERS.

John

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]]> By: Bob White http://toped.svefoundation.org/2010/07/26/csba-scott-plotkins-troubling-resignation/comment-page-1/#comment-20751 Bob White Mon, 26 Jul 2010 17:47:15 +0000 http://educatedguess.org/?p=2747#comment-20751 I think Chris Stampolis makes strong points. He clearly has a level head when it comes to holding people accountable, as can be seen in this article which is the first hit when you google his name: http://www.tmz.com/2008/08/26/delegate-whacked-in-assault-case-against-lady/ Thanks Chris for making this so easy! I think Chris Stampolis makes strong points. He clearly has a level head when it comes to holding people accountable, as can be seen in this article which is the first hit when you google his name:

http://www.tmz.com/2008/08/26/delegate-whacked-in-assault-case-against-lady/

Thanks Chris for making this so easy!

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